This blog has been created to inform the public about the UFO subject. It also contains peripheral phenomena. Created by Aileen Garoutte, previously Director of The UFO Contact Center International.

Sunday, October 08, 2006


Some of you may have read this already but for those that do not receive mail from a Yahoo Group I think it will be very enlightening. - Aileen

This interview was transcribed from video as the interviewee expressed a wish to remain anonymous ('Henry Deacon' is a pseudonym, prompted by his similarity to the likeable and creative polymath on the Eureka TV series). Certain details have been deleted and/or amended in order to ensure that his identity remains concealed, and the transcript has been “cleaned” of most expressed natural hesitations and the like. Meanwhile, it is most important to note that none of the factual information disclosed has been altered or amended in any way.

Henry’s name and employment details are known and verified and we were able to meet with him personally more than once. He was understandably a little nervous but definitely wanted to talk with us. In conversation, he sometimes responded with silence and meaningful glances or enigmatic smiles rather than words. He was entirely disarming, in a very quiet way, and was not always certain about what he should or shouldn't say. At times, however, he took great pleasure in revealing the truth about some key matter in a way that could not be traced back to him. One or two supplementary details were provided by e-mail after the interview.The most important piece of additional information comes at the very end of the transcript, where Henry confirms Dan Burisch's testimony.Readers are welcome to distribute this freely with the proviso that no part of it must be altered or deleted. Unaltered extracts can be quoted if the context is made clear. We consider this interview to be extremely important and in our opinion the information revealed should be made widely known.

Please tell us a little bit about yourself – as much as you feel you can.

I’m a current employee of one of the three letter agencies [he plays a little word game with us until we guess the right agency, which he then confirms]. I’m probably taking quite a risk by speaking to you like this, though I don't intend to reveal any information that in my judgment is both classified and specific to national security. I’ve been involved in many projects with many different agencies over many years.To jump right in at the deep end, I believe I was a walk-in around eighth grade. I have memories of coming from another planet, and these are all mixed up, all mingled with human boyhood memories. It's very weird, and hard to explain what it feels like. I’ve never had any problems intuitively accessing complex scientific information and I've often found myself understanding complex systems with no detailed briefing or training. I work essentially with systems. I don't mean to be arrogant, but I do know a great deal of advanced information, scientific and otherwise. I just seem to know it. I can’t say more than that right now.

Can you give even any clues about which agency you work for?

No, not on public record. I just can't afford that.

What information do you feel you have that’s important for the world to know?

There’s so much that it’s hard to know where to start.I knew about 9/11 two years before the event, for instance. Not in specific terms, but certainly in general ones. It was talked about, an event like that, something that would change the game, let's say.I know that there’s a planned war between the US and China scheduled for late 2008. This is also geopolitical and not concerned with Black Ops as such. These were both just events that I got to hear about in passing. I have no detailed information about them.

You mean that China and the US are working together to stage a war?

The Pentagon started the planning in 1998. You have to understand that China and the US are hand in glove with everything. This war is a joint op between the US and China. Most wars are set up that way and have been for a while.You want something else that’s just unpleasant to hear? I also heard from someone who was serving in a unit that worked with missiles deployed for testing in the Pacific and the Far East. The missiles were shipped to the test location in very tightly sealed containers, very secure, hermetically sealed. After the tests, the container would be shipped back, sealed the same way, but empty, supposedly empty. On one occasion, this guy was present when a container was opened. It wasn't empty. It was filled with bags of white powder.


I leave you to draw your own conclusions. I doubt it was sugar. Let me just say that, hypothetically speaking, and let just me say that to protect myself, if such a plan was in operation, it makes perfect logistical sense as it’s a totally secure way to get around all security, customs, international boundaries and ports, and all those checks. It’s perfect, like the way guns and ammunition used to cross borders in diplomatic bags going between consulates. This happens all the time.

Would you call yourself a physicist?

Yes. I cover other specialties as well, but yes, I’m a physicist. And I specialize in systems. Livermore is a good place to be, everyone's very professional there. They don’t, you know, they don’t play games there.

What can you say about the current state of physics in the military-industrial complex?

It’s dozens of years ahead of mainstream physics which is published in journals in the public domain. There are projects dealing with subjects beyond the belief or experience, beyond the imagination, of many public domain physicists.

Can you give us any examples?

[long pause]There's a project called Shiva Nova at Livermore which uses arrays of giant lasers. These are huge lasers, huge capacitors, many terawatts of energy, in a building built on giant springs [extends his arms to show the size], all focused on a tiny tiny point. This creates a fusion reaction which replicates certain conditions for nuclear weapons testing. It’s like a nuke test in lab conditions, and there's very powerful data collection focused on that point where all the energy is focused.The problem is that all extremely high-energy events like this create rips in the fabric of spacetime. This was observed back in the early Hiroshima and Nagasaki events, and you can even see it in the old movies. Look for what looks like an expanding energy sphere, and I can send you a link to show you. The problem with creating rips in spacetime, whether they're big or little, is that things get in that you don’t want to be there.

Things get in?

Things get in. Things that we all know about that are discussed on the net a lot. Beings, and influences, and all kinds of weird stuff, and I can tell you they’ve created big problems.

What kind of problems?

[pause]The problem of their presence and then what happens next. The other problem is that if you’re creating rips in spacetime you’re messing with time itself, whether you mean to or not. There have been attempts to fix that, and it all results in a complicated overlay of time loops. Some ETs are trying to help, and others, others are not. When predicting futures, we can only talk about probable and possible futures. This is all extremely complex and very highly classified. Basically, it’s just a huge mess. We've opened Pandora’s Box, starting with the Manhattan Project, and we haven't yet found a way to deal with the consequences.

The problem of multiple timelines sounds like the information reported by Dan Burisch... can you comment on that?

[shakes head] I don’t know about any of that.

OK. We’ll send you the links so that you can see the interviews. But what you’re saying also corroborates the information reported by "Mr X" on the Camelot website. Have you seen or read those interviews?

No, what does he say?

"Mr X" is an archivist who for a six-month period had the opportunity to work with classified documents, films, photos and artifacts back in the mid-80s when he was working on a special project with a defense contractor. He says that he read that the principal reason for the ETs' interest in us was because of nuclear testing and the general threat of nuclear weapons.

That sounds about right. Except only one or two ET groups are concerned about nuclear weapons, not all of them.

OK. What else can you tell us about the timeline problem?

Just that it’s unresolved. The risk is, you see, that each time we try to fix it, it adds to the problem. It just gets worse all the time.

Are the aliens – or some of the aliens – time travelers? Dan Burisch states this.


Do you know about the Montauk Project?

That caused a huge problem, and generated a... created a 40-year loop.I don’t know about Al Bielek. I believe some of his information is suspect. But something like that definitely did happen, the Philadelphia Experiment, too. John Neumann was very involved in all of that.

And Tesla, and Einstein?

Don’t know. But Neumann... [nods head]

Montauk was real?

Yes. That was a real mess. They created a time split we’re still unable to mend. Now, understand this also relates to Project Rainbow, the Stargates… they were also working on that there. But some of the Montauk reports on the net are unconvincing to me. I’ve seen some of the photos of the equipment they’re supposed to have used, and it’s junk, just a pile of junk.

[Bill] I’ve always had a problem with the idea of time portals because I don’t see how or why they’d stay with the planet at a certain location as it moves through space. If a portal was created in spacetime, you’d expect it to be left behind somewhere very quickly as the earth rotates, and moves round in its orbit, and the solar system itself is orbiting the galaxy in a huge cycle. I mean, everything’s in motion, all the time, and this is well known. Can you explain this?

No, I can’t... but I know what you mean, and the portals do stay in specific locations, kind of anchored to this planet. That does happen that way. Why they don’t get left behind or just kind of float off somewhere, I have no idea. Maybe they’re gravitationally anchored in some way. Your guess is as good as mine.One of the portals connects to Mars, and it’s a stable connection, no matter where Earth and Mars are in their orbits. We have a base there established in the early sixties. Actually, we have a number of bases.

So we’ve explored Mars already.

Sure, a long time ago. Have you seen Alternative Three?


That had some truth to it. The Mars landing video was all a spoof, and other parts of it were as well, but there’s truth there.

What else do you know as a physicist working on these projects?

OK. This may interest you if you have a physics background. You know what signal non-locality is, right? When two particles in different parts of the universe can apparently communicate with each other simultaneously, no matter what the distance. Communications devices have been made for communicating across vast distances and also locally using a methodology that’s impossible to eavesdrop on, because there's nothing traveling between the two devices that can be intercepted. It’s impossible to crack or codebreak or eavesdrop because no signal travels anywhere, so there’s no signal to be intercepted or decoded. It just doesn’t work like that.The beauty of it is that the devices are actually so simple to build. You can create two chaotic circuits, on a couple of small breadboards using cheap components which anyone can buy, and they communicate with each other in this way. You can build these if you know how.

Are there any other applications besides communication?


What else can you tell us about this?

That’s it. Oh, I should say that I didn’t realize at first that you were also the guy who created the Serpo website. Let me just say that it wasn’t called by that name. And I doubt that the travel took nine months. That's not how they traveled there.

Oh, you mean the travel was instantaneous?

I don’t think they traveled the way they say they did on the Serpo website. Maybe there were other programs. There may have been many. But travel across large distances is best done using portals. Anything else is really... it's just inefficient.

You mean they used Stargates?

I guess you could call them that, yes.

I also suspect the system isn’t Zeta Reticuli. It sounds to me like Alpha Centauri. I think you mentioned this on the site.

Do you have a reason for saying that?

Well, Zeta 1 and 2 are a long way apart from one another. Alpha Centauri and Promixa Centauri are close together. Alpha Centauri has a solar system very much like ours, but it's older. The planets are in stable orbits. There are three inhabited planets, the second, third and fourth. No, wait, the fifth, I think. Second, third and fifth.

That’s astonishing… you knew this professionally? I mean, you came across this in the course of your work?

Yes. This is known. It’s comparatively easy to get there, less than five light years away, and that’s, you know, it's right next door to us. The… people… there are very human-like. They're not Grays, they’re like us. The human form is very common in the universe.

[Bill] Is one of the planets desert-like? That’s what I saw in the photo I described. Two setting suns, over a desert landscape. It really blew me away. [See this article on the Serpo website]

Yes, it is. A desert planet.


Are you familiar with Project Looking Glass?

That sounds kind of familiar...

It was a kind of technology that Dan Burisch told us about that involved seeing into the future. Were you involved with it?

OK, that technology wasn't developed by us. We were given it, or it was taken from a craft we acquired. I didn't work on that.

We heard they have a man-made Stargate as Los Alamos. Are you familiar with that?
[looks at us without answering, slight enigmatic smile]
What can you tell us about Los Alamos?

There's a Los Alamos website I'll send you, and then you can search there under “gravity shielding” and things like that. It’s all there.[Note: the website is http://lanl.arxiv.org/.]Now, it may have been an error that it’s in the public domain. You might want to advise people to archive the pages they find there before they’re taken off the web once this gets out, if it does. But right now you can see it with your own eyes.It’s hard to know what else to say.

What can you tell us about the ET presence?

Look up the movie Wavelength. It’s based on a totally true story. Have you seen it? It's based on an incident that took place at Hunter Liggett. This is a hot one.

No. Where’s Hunter Liggett?

90 miles south-south-east of Monterey, California. My primary station at the time was Fort Ord.I was working there back in the early 70s, when I was in the military, and I was working under CDCEC, which is Combat Developments Command Experimentation Command. You can go look that up.We were doing testing of all kinds of devices, and we lived out in the field there. We wore laser protection goggles a lot of the time and we had our eyes dialated routinely to check our retinas for burns. Some of the cattle in the fields even wore modified goggles! This was the most bizarre sight you could ever imagine.Well, one day something happened while we were testing. A disk came into the area and it was hovering, it hovered right directly in front of us, out in a field. So [pause] we shot the ****ing thing down.

You shot down a disk?

[shaking head] We should never have done it. It wasn't me personally, but the group did. Between us we had all this gizmo weaponry and I guess they panicked and thought they were in a movie or something. The disk was disabled and it was captured, and so were the occupants, and I saw these very briefly. They were small child-like humanoids, with no hair. And they had small eyes, not large almond-shaped eyes. I don’t think anyone knows about this. As far as I know it’s not on the internet.

This is incredible. I've never heard of this incident.

Most of the other witnesses ended up in Vietnam and many were killed. I may be the only living witness to what happened... I don’t know.

The rest of the story is in a sci-fi movie called Wavelength, which was released in the early '80s. I’d never heard of it until I ran into it years later, in Arizona. Did I just say this? [laughs, for the first time]

When I saw the video, I was expecting some, you know, light entertainment with a beer or two, but I mean, my mouth just hung wide open. The beginning of the film just completely clearly and accurately describes the incident, and the film is very close to the rest of the story, including the use of an abandoned Nike base in Southern California to store them.

Go find it. It’s all basically true. I was just amazed when I saw it. The person who wrote it must have been there, or knew someone who was there. But I don’t know who.

I had a genuine alien photo once. I showed it to someone, a woman, a very talented woman, who was a microbiologist working for one of the agencies. It scared the s*** out of her. I couldn’t believe it. She just didn’t want to deal with it at all. And I’d say that just suggests that the public, even scientists aren’t ready for this information to be released. And this person was really smart. It didn’t stop her from freaking out, just not wanting to know. She was just, you know, totally spooked.

Do you still have the photo? Can we see it?

I don’t know. I may still have it somewhere, and if I can find it, I’ll forward it to you.

Can you describe it?

It showed a small being with dark skin, kind of black and wrinkled. He was a sole survivor of an incident. But he died shortly afterwards. He had a suit that was self-healing, ah... self-repairing. It was a kind of fabric, or something, that would actually repair itself. And he had an artifact with him that was some kind of remote control device, and that was taken away from him.

He was the survivor of a crash?


A time traveler?

You know everything, don't you?

No, but you're giving us verification.

I mean, it’s just so incredibly complicated. It’s so complex it’s possible that no one person has all the information. Most of the agencies don’t know what the other agencies know and everything is heavily compartmentalized right up the wazoo. No-one talks to anyone else about this stuff. Sometimes entire projects are duplicated at the cost of God knows how many billions because the existence of the other project is unknown, it‘s kept from them. I mean, I’m a scientist, and scientists sometimes have one arm tied behind their backs because they can't communicate freely. In fact, they can’t communicate at all [laughs]. And there are dozens, hundreds of classified projects, I mean major ones. It’s just a total mess.

Look, there are many groups of ETs, and besides our own ancestors are mixed in there. There are time loops upon time loops, and it’s all a mess. You’d need an IQ of 190 to figure it all out.

Tell us about the time loops. By the way, can we ask you again…. you’ve not heard of Dan Burisch?

Not that I remember. It's not familiar to me.

We interviewed him last month. He was next to John Lear on the web page.

I did see your interview with John Lear, talking about the moon photos and the way they’re airbrushed. NASA does that all the time. He’s quite a character, by the way. I’d like to meet him one day.What few people know is that radar reports for the National Weather Service are also airbrushed, so that certain radar images aren’t released. I don’t mean airbrushed as in by hand. The radar images are electronically filtered using software. Some of these radar traces are huge. In addition, the weather radar won’t record traces that are moving faster than a certain high speed, a couple of thousand miles an hour. But there are still traces which need to be removed.


Sure. They’re often optically invisible, but usually show up on radar. They’re also visible in ultraviolet... I don’t think this is generally known by people.

So what can you tell us about the time loops?

Right. [long pause]The situation with time loops is that there are a large number of parallel timelines, lots of branches. There are no paradoxes. [draws a diagram] If you go back in time and kill your grandfather, that’s the grandfather paradox everyone talks about, there’s no paradox. When you go back and change the past, it creates a different timeline, which is a new branch of the original one. On that timeline, you’d not be born and wouldn’t exist, so that aspect of the paradox is true. Do you see? But on this timeline, which you’re on here and now, you do exist, and continue to do so. There’s no paradox. It’s simple… do you see? You’re dealing with different branches of a kind of time tree. No principles get violated. All future events are possibilities, not certainties. That’s kind of pretty important, an important... distinction. That's really all I can say about that.

Do you know anything about chemtrails?

OK. Chemtrails were developed by Edward Teller and are basically the seeding of thousands of tons of microparticles of aluminum on the upper atmosphere to try to increase the albedo of the planet, the reflectivity of the planet, because of global warming. Now, gold microparticles, real gold, were used once in a similar situation on another planet, but I guess they had lots of gold, and we used aluminum instead. Global warming is partly because of the greenhouse effect, and that certainly makes things worse, but most of it is because of increased solar activity. Solar activity is the real problem.

Why isn’t this information in the public domain? It seems like people should know and would like to know, and there’s no security risk if what you say is true.

Scientifically, it’s just a total gamble. Not nearly enough is understood. It may work, or maybe it won't. It could easily make things worse. There may also be health side-effects, weather side-effects, God knows what. It affects the whole planet and here you have a unilateral, non-democratic decision, unconnected with the political or democratic process, to launch a huge technological special project that affects everyone on earth. If that’s not controversial, I don’t know what is. The solution is to keep it secret. It’s the usual kneejerk solution, too.

Will it work?

I don’t know.

Is this also connected with weather wars?

[pause]Yes, there are weather wars. The Air Force will own the weather within two years.

What else can you tell us?

Read The Report from Iron Mountain. Much of that is true. I was working with a group down in [ ______ ]. They called us in and passed out a report. The weird thing is that it wasn’t even connected with what we were working on, and it came just right out of the blue, out of nowhere, and none of us were expecting it. The guy said, and I’ll never forget it because it struck me as just wrong: “There are the wolves and there are the sheep, and we are the wolves.” Then they told us to go and read the report, and that was that.There wasn’t any choice, and there still isn’t. The way they see it is there are too many people, and, you know, they're right. That's true. So they figure they need to eliminate them and they're planning solutions to this. I happen to think it doesn’t have to be that way. Apart from what I’ve mentioned so far about the spacetime problems, the problem is overpopulation. It’s as simple as that. There are programs to reduce global population for everyone’s benefit. Believe it or not, the intent there is positive. It was put together by Kennedy way back then. The RAND Corporation was involved, and one of the Rockefellers, I forget which one, probably Laurance, I think.

By killing people off?

Basically, yes. Artificial viruses that have been deployed using a number of means and are hard to detect or identify and nearly impossible to cure. Medical people in the public domain can't identify what's happening.

How do you feel about this personally?

Very mixed. [pause]As an individual flesh-and-blood human being, I’m appalled. And as a scientist trained to look at things from a high vantage point, a high overview, I have to say that I can understand the thinking.You have to understand that I’m not defending or condoning this. It’s just a comment from an abstract scientific perspective. But the problems we face on this planet are so huge that very few people have the training or experience to view it all, to see it all in the same field of vision.My situation was different, and I got a chance to see a lot of things because of the nature of my work. Most people don’t see it all. But I've worked with many agencies, and I have the big picture.Do you know that it’s legal to test biological and chemical agents against US citizens? It’s legal. You know, all that has to be done is to get the approval of the mayor of the city, or his equivalent in any area. Or some representative official. No-one knows this, but it can be checked out. Go look it up. It’s all carefully hidden away in the law somewhere, but it’s all in the public domain. It's all there.

You’ve revealed a whole lot of extraordinary material here in our conversation. What’s the most important message you’d like to leave people with?

Look, I don’t want to shock anyone, but I’m not optimistic. The problems facing us as a race on this planet are huge. I don't believe most civilians are ready and able to comprehend and deal with the sheer scale and complexity of it all. They have enough trouble managing their everyday lives, and these problems are on a completely different level. Overpopulation is really the biggest issue.

Everything else facing us is connected with this.You see, I can understand the military taking matters into their own hands. If there was full disclosure of all the problems, and all the proposed solutions, do you really think it would help any of us? I suggest the answer is probably not. It would just complicate matters further.But deep down I do feel that everyone should know these things, or else I would not be talking with you. The essential message I want to leave with is that I do actually hope and want to believe that we as a people can handle all this, but sometimes I wake up in the morning and doubt it, but deep down I want people to know the important things that have been kept from us all. But sometimes I do wonder. You don’t know what I haven't told you.
Project Camelot home page is:http://projectcamelot.org/Interviews with subjects are at "Interviews" screen at (including "Henry Deacon"):http://projectcamelot.org/interviews.html

On 27 September, three weeks after the initial meetings, and after we had strongly urged him to view the three part Dan Burisch video interview on the Project Camelot website, we received the following e-mail. It is quoted verbatim and in its entirety.

Dan Burisch is telling the whole truth.I confirm this.timelines and all best wishes


  • At 6:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    This interview has some intensely interesting stuff in it.

    I just found this blog today, and I like it already.

  • At 12:10 PM, Blogger Bruce Duensing said…

    This is some psycho-babble. Loved it. Entertainingly low rent mind balm for paranoid futurists who will believe any old tale.Whoever wrote this is a genius.

  • At 12:31 PM, Blogger Izzy Diemez said…

    The interviewer just accepts all of this claptrap uncritically. No evidence. Nothing.

    Oh, I had a picture of this alien, see, but I seem to have misplaced it.

    Yeah, right.

  • At 4:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    what is described in this blog can be taken as the truth in some aspects. wars have been choreographed by the CIA in Africa several times now. underground experiments have been proven to be very unhealthy to civilians. did you know the then director of the FBI started majority of the american news channels? i will take some of this as truth, reflect on it and keep on with my research.....

  • At 6:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Very interesting to read about the idea of culling the human population through deliberately designed biological agents. For some it is perhaps already too late.

    I personally know of 4 people on my street who lost substantial portions of their pulmonary (lung) function literally over night, 18 months ago, within roughly a 3-month period of each other.

    Both the consulting pulmonary specialists and the general practitioners claimed to have no idea what the cause might have been. All patients were normal and healthy immediately prior to the onset of a mysterious cold virus which immediately resulted in a 40% (or worse) reduction in the carbon dioxide conversion within their lungs.

    Uh huh, must be a coincidence of some sort. Go figure.

  • At 2:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Most mainstream scientists seem turned-off to paranormal tales. Some regard them as "cold war" disinfo. Yet when I returned to visit my old college physics professor after 30 years intending to ask him about the Philadelphia Experiment and Von Neumann, he was strangely distant and tried to avoid meeting with me. I was careful not to have mentioned the purpose of my visit to him or anyone else. How he knew of that is a mystery to me to this day.

    Sarfatti told me that if he had or was working on classified projects on which I was inquiring (albeit innocently), he would be required to report my actions to national security. Jack thought he was acting like he didn't want to meet with me in order to save me some trouble. Although I was one of his favorite students, I also find it interesting that he didn't answer any of my e-mails. He had always bent over backwards (sometimes too much in my opinion) to accomodate inquiring minds.

    Hoping to find a common denominator among UFOs, time-travel, remote-viewing, "stargates", Montauk etc., I archived material at http://www.stealthskater.com . Also stored there (but not appearing in the public navigational boxes) is a diary of e-mails I have received from researchers in these area. E-mail me if you want to view these.

  • At 3:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    the real question can we survive the wackos on the planet such as the one interviewed...his real agency is N.U.T. case

  • At 5:02 AM, Blogger Rick Phillips said…

    Here's my reaction to this wide ranging interview. First, it has always been of interest to me that some types of paranormal activity - mainly UFO's - `showed up' JUST after the atomic bomb era began. I've often wondered if mankind `moved' the physical location of the Earth enough to be detectable on other planets in other solar systems. If so, when such an event occurs -- it could indeed be a `sign' that a planet has `intelligence' and may be worthy of a visit.

    Personally, I view the possiblity that `rips' in space-time also may be detectable by an advanced intelligence. Also, in my opinion, intelligence, if given enough `time' may figure `time travel' (in a sense) out. Not traveling into the future or past of a given location in space-time; BUT -- the ability to move thru space at a greater speed than light (which amounts to time travel for the subjuet going the rate of speed/space). So, that means, I'd favor more of an idea of `instantaneous' travel to a star system -- as opposed to it taking `9 months'. Indeed, doesn't the 9 months ring strongly about `a new birth' -- a little hookie.

    Finally, as far a `alien beings' on planet Earth --- well, I don't think Jackie Gleason was a liar - how 'bout you?

  • At 6:33 AM, Blogger Truth Seeker said…

    I personally believe this is just more nonesense from another wacko claiming to be a government whistle blower. If any aspects of this are true then its highly disturbing and just goes to show the type of psychotic fruitcakes who weild the power on this planet.

    The part about culling the population is absolute hypocritical. If what he and others say is true, these secretive angencies have been sitting on free energy and faster than light technologies for atleast 50 years. These technologies alone would help solve the population problem on this planet. If this tech had been freely shared, humanity could of colonised the nearsest stars by now and any population problem on Earth would be no more.

    Anyone who keeps a secret of this magnitude from the whole of Humanity is the enemy of all mankind. Even hell is too good for these people.

    Finally just like to add that I'm sick of these people claiming humanity couldn't handle the truth. What a load of crap. What we cant handle is being lied to time and time again by a bunch of power hungry losers playing GOD.

  • At 6:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…


  • At 8:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The description of purported dark-skinned alien with self healing suit & gadget is identical to the pictures offered by "Jonathan Reed" years ago, who has since been proven a hoax.

  • At 9:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I was interested in his reponse to the question about chemtrails, stating the Aluminum microparticles are used, and that Gold microparticles are used on another planet. Michael Tellinger discusses this in his new book "Slave Species of god", which I highly recommend.
    According to translations from 28,000 Sumerian tablets, our ancestors came here to mine Gold to save their home planet by distributing gold microparticles in their upper atmosphere. (Before you call this BS, at least read the book!)
    In the following passage quoted from an email I received from Michael Tellinger, he relates his conversation with a South African banker:

    "Some two months ago I was interviewing a retired South African banker who in his day headed up probably the most powerful monetary fund in SA. In his position he was very close to the major decision makers in the gold industry. He confirmed that he was privy to a meeting between a group of top scientists and business men from South Africa; USA and Iran, who secretly met to discuss how gold could be used in the atmosphere to deal with a number of environmental issues on Earth. I will scratch more and share my findings with you all.



    Michael Tellinger

    May 2006.

    www.slavespecies.com "

  • At 9:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    No pr00f, the usual problem with ALL goobermint conspiracy nutjobs. I just want some freaking PHYSICAL EVIDENCE! That must be to much to ask.

  • At 10:33 AM, Blogger wildone_106 said…

    I just love it how all these time travellers and super above top secret whistleblowers would say the same story, but each time its almost a completely different thing. You'd think there would be some consistency between them.
    This guy is supposdely working on some heavy stuff, so you'd think he's pretty smart, but when asked about why these stargate/portal things stay anchored to the planet he did'nt exactly give an authentic answer or theory, considering he's a physicist..

  • At 10:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Shades of 'John Titor' here. It all sounds plausible, but none of it is provable. 'I Want To Believe'..

  • At 11:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    This is a bunch of hooey. I searched on only one of the things he mentioned, and it came up as a hoax.


  • At 11:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    mr.x still has a major part of proof hidden away sommewhere as fare as im told and ive red all the stuff on mr.x "but are u still able to handle a ibm ??-floris

  • At 11:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    to me it soundz like we jus need to relax and let thingz happen az they will. from my individual "average american" perspective, they'll never tell me the truth and i'll never know.. so why waste time in proof or even speculation. thingz will turn out exactly az they must. what you reap so shall you sow... im honest truthful and loving and unconcerned over the apparent "problemz" they would have us believe in. interesting read but it doez not concern my daily life.

  • At 11:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Nothing new here!! Same old crap repackaged.

  • At 11:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Quite an intense interview. One comment here read something to the effect of a bunch of futuristic crap with no proof. What kind of proof should he have brought with him? A dead alien?? Captured UFOs?? Stargates??? Aside from the "missing alien photo" I'm not sure what he could have had with him to prove his story was real. Sure, if I had a photo of a live alien from another galaxy/time I would know EXACTLY where I have it at ALL TIMES. But this is someone who has/had access to a number of technologies and God knows what else. It just may be plausible to say he may have had other kinds of proof that he's not mentioning to protect his identity as best he can. Basically, if just a small portion of this is true... WOW!!

  • At 11:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Aside from the inconsistencies that have been pointed out by the previous bloggers, the one that I love the most is when he said NASA airbrushed the moon landings. Now if you will recall, he said that we have had a number of bases on Mars since the 70's and he's talked about trans-dimensional portals (for lack of a better term...I really didn't want to say Stargates) for traveling vast distances instantanously, but we can't get a man on the moon!!! Anyone who reads this and believes this guy is on the up and up, is in serious need of a reality check.

  • At 1:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Completely fake. He seems to know so much about one thing, yet wont get into real details and gives half-assed answers on other questions.

    This is clearly just some attention starved nut looking for a few mintues of fame. He brags about how smart he is and how easily he understand complex physics, yet cannot even clearly explain his own BS. Also, if I had a photo of a real alien I would for sure know where it was at all times. This person comes off as completely unreliable and totally fake. I pity the time the interviewer had to waste on such nonsense.

  • At 1:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To the gentleman
    who said certain agencies may be 'hypocritical' on their solution to the overpopulation issue fir Gods sake, where have you been ? Dosent take a genious
    to understand its all about
    CONTROL. YOU CANT CONTROL ALL THESE BILLIONS OF PEOPLE ANYMORE. In the past it was manageable but certainly not anymore.


  • At 1:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    this guy's and idiot, as well as is anyone who believes this...if there were bases on mars, im pretty sure someone wouldve seen them through a telescope by now....

  • At 2:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    (((this guy's and idiot, as well as is anyone who believes this...if there were bases on mars, im pretty sure someone wouldve seen them through a telescope by now....)))

    Yeah right!
    like the bases on the moon astronomers have been reporting for decades yet everyone pretends theres nothing there lol

  • At 4:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The fact he is quoting movies and confirming what other previous nutjobs have said points to the fact he's picking his story out of the air. Nothing to see here people, except for some amusing tales from a rambling loon in desperate need of some attention.

  • At 4:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Right up there with the end of the world freaks who put their flocks on the mountain waiting until they get the message that eternity is on hold (again).

    Sometimes clever, sometimes not - this fella gives us a 2008 war as potential proof. Well, guess what? In 2008 he will say "Oh, that war is in a different loop".

  • At 6:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    This was intertaining in the least.
    This person said nothing that anyone could not come up with by reading all of the information and dis-information that anyone can find on the net or in 10 dozen books that are out there. Saying that there is stuff going on beyond any scientists imagination is a load of blarny.
    What a fun read.

  • At 6:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    alot of things hear really make you think.for instance using gold in the atmosphere to stop the affects of deadly uv rays was also portrayed in a outer limits episode if anyone remembers but instead of gold it was a certain frequency that scientists picked up from seti that aliens sent through space to help anyone with similiar problems they faced.the point is that the goverment has been using movies and t.v shows as a way to desensitize us to what is really going on anybody who is paying attention would realize perhaps there is some truth that has been released as so called science fiction.what better way is there to get a message across without having to fess up to top secret knowledge on a official level?

  • At 8:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I'm sure there's a lot going on the world doesn't know, but this guy produced no details or new facts to back him up.
    Good read but I fell the guy is a DEE DEE DEE ....KaK

  • At 10:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I can believe the US government is working on a new war with China. I can think of at least 6 other well documented incidents where the government has worked with other governments to direct US citizens along a particular line of thought. The question I have is who have they decided is going to "win" the war and at what expense to the losers. Voting for Republicrats isn't going to change a thing. We need some moral people in our leadership who can and will lead morally instead of politically.

  • At 10:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I have heard about most of what he said. And, guess what? I am not a physist.

    What a bunch of crap.

  • At 12:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    This man is telling the truth about CDCEC out in Hunter Liggett south of Monterey, California. I lived in Monterey at the time and worked for a company on the Fort Ord base that contracted with CDCEC. I was working under a "secret" clearance doing data processing and publishing field trials done with laser beam combat weapons out in Hunter Liggett between "blue" and "red" teams. I am, however unaware of the flying disc that Henry says was shot down only because alot of things done out there in Hunter Liggett did not filter down to me . . . especially an incident like that. Henry's right . . . Hunter Liggett is a very, weird and erie place to be around.

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  • At 1:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Yeah, right, virus to cull unwanted population, Duh. Why don;t they just adulterate the "cocaine" in the missile tubes and kill everyone who snorts it. Way cheaper than manufacturing a virus for which there is no cure. Badly thought out: not convincing. Nice try, though.

  • At 10:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I am 53 y/o and have been reading about UFOs for the past 45 years. I have learned to let people reveal what they will and see if there is any new info. The very nature of the alien agenda is concealment. Or, to state it another way, "Hide everything in plain sight." It is up to the reader to decide for himself if it is believeable. I keep an open mind while attempting to discern the truth. If truth is stranger than fiction, then that which is yet to be revealed often seems preposturous.

    Don't be too quick to judge. It is best to take a wait and see attitude. Much is yet to be revealed.

  • At 12:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I believe that even he doesn,t know how true all this is! The unwillingness of most of so called "civilization" to hear and see truth will be it's undoing. This truely is a sad time for this planet,s life forms and I wish there was a way to fix it!

  • At 12:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction and needs no explanation or proof. This interview was excellent. WAKE UP People, open your eyes.

  • At 3:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Total delusional bull$&)#. The alien picture is probably in my garage or refrigerator...ah, who cares DOESN'T everyone misplace their alien pictures?

    C'mon. Next...he is a alien walk in that has instant access to scientific data? HOW COME HE CAN'T address any questions of a scientific nature? A Trekkie could have answered the questions better.

    Finally, after regurgitating classic conspiracy theories, he mentions a couple "highly compartmentalized programs" ...um the lingo is "special access program" or SAP if you are really i the know... that are ALL open source.

    The dude needs help.

  • At 6:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    there certainly are alot of nah sayers on here.do you guys work for the goverment for the disimformation department.i would not be suprised if you were.please try to keep an open mind here.so he said he will see if he can find alien picture.hes all ready risking his neck by making these claims in the first place whether there true or not.

  • At 10:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    This info is truly great and I do appreciate
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    to this scene on the planet earth than we
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  • At 12:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    When I was a teenager in the 40's, I went roller skating at Skateland at the beach. This was at Playland at the Beach in San Francisco, CA. After skating I went to the beach to see the seals at seal-rock. There on the beach was a metal disk. I went to look at it, and it came up to my waist. The little people invited me in, but I was too big to get inside. I then shrunk smaller and could get into the disk. It was round and in the middle of it was a wheel. Nothing else. We had a wonderful ride and conversation. After the ride, I got out of the disk and then I was in my own bed waking up. I was surprised when Henry described such a disk and small people that I had met in San Francisco when I was a teenager.

  • At 1:49 PM, Blogger Truth Seeker said…

    Sorry Ben no where in the interview did he mention the culling of Earth's population being about control. He claimed it was because theres just too many people and not enough resources. He's also trying to make out that the government are doing it in everyones best interests. Yeah right, lol.

    Of course I know governments are obsessed with the control of there citizens. Who doesn't, but that doesnt mean they will succeed in bringing about a Police State.

    I very much doubt anyone living in a democracy would allow it to happen including even some of those in government. I also doubt that ID cards will take off as most people are against them. Whats the government going to do when everyone tells them to stick there ID cards where the sun dont shine. Lock us all up. Last time I checked the prisons were all full.

    I stand by what I said originally. This article is just complete nonsense. Anyone with a imagination could make up this kind of crap.

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  • At 8:10 PM, Blogger Big Old Blackie said…

    Speakin of wars, how about them Ape Skunks? Thems a reel problem facing this grate nation of ours. They have been been seen all over yonder. This is big time! If they keep multiplyin we could be in reel trubel, these varmants can't be tamed, they are wildmen. Please dont attempt to catch one yourself! They are seen around them UFO fellas too, be careful, God Bless.

  • At 12:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I don't feel the need to be anonymous, my name is Rita D. McPhee. In regard to 'Ben's' comment....which is utter nonsense.
    'you can't control all these billlions of people anymore.. manageable in the past but not anymore..' This is conceivably why the 'powers that be' are able to be so successful. That is a typical 'sheep'attitude! If you people could take your heads out of the sand, you would realize that you are indeed being conrolled, and powerfully today. I respect what has been stated by Henry Deacon, and would like to hear more, further, I believe he,
    Henry is a 'walk in'........and has some sound information that should be considered by the entire population, rather than listening, and obviously swallowing the war mongers sitting in places of 'presidency' - 'prime ministers' - 'senates'. etc.....Cancer, for example is no longer a fatal disorder, as a cure has been secured, many years ago, and many other disorders, such as aids has a cure.......but why declare and use these cures, when it enhances the depopulation? Many millions of dollars are donated by the populatin to no end! The world at large focuses on what they hear, and allow the powers that be to continue on their merry way. Does anyone consider what is going on behind the scene,by putting the focus for the 'sheep' public to swallow the tripe that is put onto the media.........and continuing with their insidious works. 911 is a good example of the work that is being perpetrated by your president
    .........a puppet. All in the name of control and inciting fear,and the public swallows this.....just as the 'bible', imposing control through fear. Wake up world, and use your own minds.......become individuals and use your power to change things yourselves, by looking behind the screen, that allows you to be so complacent. Thankyou Henry Deacon for going onto the web to perhaps enlighten and wake up the people that live with minds as large as their back yards.......I look forward to hearing more......Too many people
    elect to be 'victims'...and create their own reality, as we do indeed create our own reality each day.
    I wonder if the population realizes that they too, could each perform such things as teleporting?
    Consciousness and energy creates reality.(Ramtha)..........thank your for the opportunity to voice my thoughts.

  • At 3:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The movie wavelength 1983 is the right one for tangerine dream music, its supposed to be awesome movie for its time... based on true story too if u believe the interview with Henry Deacon' interview at http://projectcamelot.org/interviews.html

    interview excerpt here:
    " What can you tell us about the ET presence?

    Look up the movie Wavelength. It’s based on a totally true story. Have you seen it? It's based on an incident that took place at Hunter Liggett. This is a hot one.

    No. Where’s Hunter Liggett?

    90 miles south-south-east of Monterey, California. My primary station at the time was Fort Ord.

    I was working there back in the early 70s, when I was in the military, and I was working under CDCEC, which is Combat Developments Command Experimentation Command. You can go look that up.

    We were doing testing of all kinds of devices, and we lived out in the field there. We wore laser protection goggles a lot of the time and we had our eyes dialated routinely to check our retinas for burns. Some of the cattle in the fields even wore modified goggles! This was the most bizarre sight you could ever imagine.

    Well, one day something happened while we were testing. A disk came into the area and it was hovering, it hovered right directly in front of us, out in a field. So [pause] we shot the ****ing thing down.

    You shot down a disk?

    [shaking head] We should never have done it. It wasn't me personally, but the group did. Between us we had all this gizmo weaponry and I guess they panicked and thought they were in a movie or something. The disk was disabled and it was captured, and so were the occupants, and I saw these very briefly. They were small child-like humanoids, with no hair. And they had small eyes, not large almond-shaped eyes. I don’t think anyone knows about this. As far as I know it’s not on the internet.

    This is incredible. I've never heard of this incident.

    Most of the other witnesses ended up in Vietnam and many were killed. I may be the only living witness to what happened... I don’t know.

    The rest of the story is in a sci-fi movie called Wavelength, which was released in the early '80s. I’d never heard of it until I ran into it years later, in Arizona. Did I just say this? [laughs, for the first time]

    When I saw the video, I was expecting some, you know, light entertainment with a beer or two, but I mean, my mouth just hung wide open. The beginning of the film just completely clearly and accurately describes the incident, and the film is very close to the rest of the story, including the use of an abandoned Nike base in Southern California to store them.

    Go find it. It’s all basically true. I was just amazed when I saw it. The person who wrote it must have been there, or knew someone who was there. But I don’t know who.

    I had a genuine alien photo once. I showed it to someone, a woman, a very talented woman, who was a microbiologist working for one of the agencies. It scared the s*** out of her. I couldn’t believe it. She just didn’t want to deal with it at all. And I’d say that just suggests that the public, even scientists aren’t ready for this information to be released. And this person was really smart. It didn’t stop her from freaking out, just not wanting to know. She was just, you know, totally spooked."
    excerpt ends

  • At 4:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    also see the movie wavelength 1983 and fastwalkers

  • At 1:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hunter Liggett is about 90 miles SSWest of Monterey...

    Some of the interview was not transcripted correctly/accurately... and some of the information was intentionally modified to protect the source/person.. some of the technical information and other aspects are erroneous due to the method of data collection (from memory only) and environmental factors surrounding the interviews.. This must be considered when attempting to understand the content and accuracy.

    The interview took place quite spontaneously, with no real planning, in noisy, public conditions.... no written, audio, video documentation was allowed.
    The interviewers were asked to pull the batteries from their phones.. The timing and locations (on a global scale) of the interviews were very sychronistic in nature... if one were to know the details...
    A small amount of false data WAS added to protect the source(s).

    Sorry folks... but one must weigh what can and cannot be told.. use your heart... not just your head

    Sci-Fi is not the source's area of interest... Far from it..

    YOU CAN change YOUR Reality.... think and wish for what you want.... Infinite choices are in Your hands.

    YOUR reality and "future" ARE in your hands and in the hands of a collective mind

    Best Wishes Always for you and your world

    May you find Your Bliss

    PS: this message was entered into this blog via another person's network connection/IP

  • At 2:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…


    Again, Best Wishes

    simple suggestions:

    Turn off your TV and news sources for a while

    Look for the Best

    Take a long break from the energies of the cities and the power grid

    But then again... you have heard this before... haven't you

  • At 11:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…




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  • At 2:42 PM, Blogger my life after near death experiences said…

    this reminds me of the guy who DID post a very interesting ufo photo of a ufo about ten feet off of the ground. a very convincing story too.
    An astute photographer found and proved the photo to be a fake! the s... hit the fan, with this guy, then, he was found to be a faker.

    I am not saying that *this* person is a fake, what i want to say is that there are to too too many people who Fake these things, thus hurting very much the belivebility of ANYTHING that smacks of ufo and conspiricies. yes, "disinformation' exists just for this, but here i am writing about the people who do this in the "Piltdown man" kind of thing, to get 222 minutes of fame by making up something.

    my own Take on this all is that the *REAL* stuff never ever gets out! and..that the real Truth would probably have most people short circuit into a nervious breakdown within .002 seconds after recieving this Truth.
    what ever this truth is....

    as in..."those who speak do not know, those who know do not speak!

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  • At 5:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    What a Crock Of Shit!...

  • At 6:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    wow total bullshit
    no evidence + no identity = no credibility

  • At 8:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Great interview, and looking at the comments I can see the usual response's.
    People you have to get a grip on your EGO's!
    No you do not know everything, you do not know who this man is, yet you 'KNOW' he is talking crap? A hundred years ago 'YOU' would 'KNOW' human flight was impossible let alone a man 'SPACE WALKING'! Get it?
    1000 years ago you would 'KNOW' that the earth was flat and sailing towards the horizon meant falling off.
    Keep an open mind. Do you still think 'TERRORIST'S' are out to get ya? From a cave? In a third world country? A cave? WAKE UP!
    Oh and the world is over populated, getting rid of a few billion idiots would help, sorry but I hate stupid people, not people who try but fail, just the ones who never try, because they 'KNOW' it all already.

  • At 1:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Most interesting. Perhaps some of you have heard of Project Camelot? projectcamelot.org - check it out. MOST interesting... There WILL be more and more of this 'crazy' stuff 'coming out'. The thing is, it may be crazy to the masses, but the craziest thing of all, is that it will be true. Hang on to yer hats fellas, we're in fer a wild ride!

  • At 9:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Project info has some interviews which are a crock of @#** - seemingly by attention deficit adults

  • At 4:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Concerning the population reduction wanted by the elites -- Why punish the living? Does it not make more sense to sterilize
    those that can procreate and reduce
    the population over time? Tax breaks for those who do not want to have children or voluntarily
    have themselves sterilized?
    It would take eons for the earth
    to return to pre-Columbus times.
    By the time the earth heals of its human parasites, the surviving will have procreated back to present levels in numbers. These are decision best made by the ultimate higher power and not by elites who think they are better than everyone else because they are wealthy. Their shit stinks just as bad as anyone elses.

  • At 6:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    My point of view, such conspiracy theories and "scientific madman" should be taken with a pinch of salt.... But, if 1% of it is true, then nothing you know on this earth matters anymore.

    "Henry Deacon" is a different kind of madman. He's calm, his neutral (unlike man other theories who is too eager to share), and most importantly, he is smart. Reading his interview shows that this guy isn't some hillbilly from a farm.

    I've been a skeptic always, but now, I stand on a 50/50 plane. My take, as a human, a person, it is your duty to know your future, may it be bad, good, or even utter nonsense.

  • At 12:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Well, I know that UFOs exist. I've seen one myself, and had another witness with me. It was even in my local newspaper, which reported that about 20 other people witnessed it in the next town over.

    However, I think that this guy is just a crazy and lonely tecnocrat/futurist. I recently saw a video of a Robert Dean lecture, and Deacon went onstage at the end of it proclaiming that he's been on Mars. The guy looked like The 55 Year Old Virgin!
    (I wonder what he thought of that movie?)

    Henry said that population control has, believe or not, good intentions? Almost everybody (who would be on this site) knows that Rockefeller is involved in that crap (that's a little too cliche). And everyone knows that both the Rockefeller's, and the mere idea of population reduction, are pure evil!

  • At 6:15 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    If all these so called scientists and physicists are coming out (with their credentials verified) and saying that they are working on behalf of the NSA, NRO etc and are ALL talking shit then we have a serious fucking problem because these people are seriously lost and there agendas are are incredibly twisted (Which i dont think they are, i think majority of them are telling the truth)....I mean come on, seriously, there are so many debunkers out there that are just ignorant and tunnel visioned that they would not be able tell there arsehole's from their mouths, but they are very quick to dismiss. There is nothing wrong with being skeptical, its human nature but do your fucking research 1ST and THEN comment as you will......

  • At 10:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

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    The transcripts were created by project camelot. No videos or recordings were made at the interviews. Camelot decided what to write and what to modify or say that Deacon said. Maybe Deacon never said any of the above. Who really knows?

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