COMMENTS ON YESTERDAY'S BLOG ABOUT JEHOVAH
I feel these two comments are an addition to the article I wrote about Jehovah and I wanted to make sure you all read them.
Aileen
Jonah said...
Very interesting Aileen...
There are two different cases that may (or may not) have bearing on the relationship between the spiritual and the visitors. Of course, it is a difficult theory to digest but if we can't float hypothesis as to what's going on...what's the point.
The first of course is the Stargate conspiracy and the work done by Andrija Puharich and his Roundtable. Here we find "The Nine" represented by "Tom". I won't go into this very interesting connection other than to mention the "Hoovians", which, according to "Tom". The following is a portion of ch 13, "The Only Planet of Choice"
"Then came the Nazarene, who is the head of Hoova, in order to soften that individualism. It was a great necessity, but we do not remove individualism or free will. But we needed to expand compassion, for in the need for survival, compassion was not developed. Compassion is now an element of development.
IRENE: But this question of compassion goes back to before Abraham, it goes back to the Garden, to Aksu?
Tom: That is correct, they were Hoovids. You see the problem there was: knowing full well who they were, where they came from, and knowing of the temptation of the opposition, it was a matter of obedience. The Hoovids did not obey, and have not obeyed since, in spite of all the rituals, and continuous asking for the Almighty to intervene, and all the prayers being directed to the Almighty.
Higher elements within the Hoovids understand this is pointless, for the Hebrews must take responsibility. But those higher elements, those of the Kabbalah, are not accepted by those who stay in the ritual. Ritual serves a purpose, but not to the exclusion of all other things. There is an error. They believe that they must study the word to the exclusion of all other things, for they feel that will be their connection, and some might not have understanding or compassion for others. They set themselves up on a pinnacle and they do not comprehend that, by doing that, they are putting themselves up there as a target for slaughter, Do you understand?
http://www.geocities.com/the931/opc13.html
Again, I only point out that the connections between the past and the present and the spiritual vs. the scientific as related to our visitors can be made many different way's. And have been...
The second is the case of 17th century abductee, Jane Leade and her Philidelphia Society. Jane was extremely religious and if you read her journal, which was published as the book "A Fountain of Gardens", you will find interspersed throughout her journal entries, descriptions of UFO sightings, Hybrid presentations and her prophetic interpretations of what is eventually to come. Here is a link to Jane Leade's entire body of work, only very recently published in it's entirety online.
http://www.passtheword.org/Jane-Lead/
Some examples..."But now the great Question of those who are willing to be Wisdom’s Disciples, is, Which way they may ascend up to this Globe Eye, to become Magicians in the holy Ghost’s Property?
This question is deep and weighty, and shall be answered according to the Gift of Revelation received; Know then, that the way to ascend to the Globe-Eye, is through its descending down into the Root-Essence of the Soul, and contracting with it Philosophically, turning it into a Magick Eye; where then it may most easily ascend, and fly to be an eye, in the Globe-Eye, before which all stands naked and open, whatsover hath proceeded from the Center-Ground of God’s Globe of Eternity. Therefore they who shall find such favour, as to be introverted and environed with this Eye, may well come to understand the grounds of the divine Magia, and be able to exert it from the Co-essential Power of the holy Ghost, without which all attempts for it will lie in Scorn and Derision. Hence we may understand where the Ground-work for divine Philosophy doth lie; whereby great Overturns and mighty Changes may be effected in this World’s Region, where God will have great occasions for divine Magia to act in his behalf "
March the 22d. 1677.
In the Night, as I was waiting in my wonted solemn Retirement, what might further be administered. I was cast as into a magical Sleep, where I saw my self carried into a Wilderness; where I saw only pleasant, pastoral Walks and Trees, which much suited with my Mind and Inclination there to walk; where I found nothing to disturb my superiour Meditations. In which place I promised my self opportunity, as not willing that either my Name, or Place should be known to any, saving One. But while I was thus pleasured in my reserved state, I suddainly did see one, that was known to me, walking very strait and upright, with a Book reading in his Hand: He seemed to be as one, that would not look awry. But it was said presently, that this Person was a Spy: then presently two more did appear of the Female Sex, both which did make a kind of Assault upon me; but one of the Females was more fierce, and did give my outward Skin a prick, as with a sharp Needle. Upon which I called for Angelical aid to succour me, or else too hard they would be. Whereupon I was parted from them, and saw them in that place no more: A voice, saying, None here shall henceforth come, but such as can agree to walk with thee perfectly. And so the Vision broke up."March the 11th. 1677.In my first Sleep, in the Night time, many magical Workings and Ideas were presented to me. As first, a Figure of a Woman, with a Crown upon her Head, who seemed to me to be but of a small Stature, but her Visage was bright as the Sun, and clear as the Moon, with a White loose Garment girt about her with a seeming White Silken Girdle, who came near to me, saying, Behold and see, what ye may arrive to be in me? And so passed away.
Then after a while, there was a Child all Lovely and Fair put into my Arms; it was all naked, of a smooth shining Skin; I could not see who it was that disposed it to me, but it was unexpectedly let down into my Arms. I thought it to be very Weighty, though but little; so passing to go away with it, it suddainly slipped through my Arms unto the Ground, at which I gave a great Screek, and with great Fear and Concern, took it up again without much Damage."
Several weeks later, Jane has another experience related to this.April the 26th. 1677
"As I was considering of the openings which I had, of that Vision relating unto the Cherubim-birth, which was hatched under the Hand of the Power: This Query arose in me, how the Spirit of this New Creature was sustained: And which way it could draw in that food, that constituted it to be of that strength and excellency of Body, and Spirit, that it could mount away, as a Dove into a unknown Orb? Ah, my Lord, what manner of Birth is this? Shall such a Birth ever be known to have existency in this terrestrial sphere? Sure such a Birth is only meet to be Born, where is a pure and unmixed Element, which may not be in strife against it. For verily it is hard and very difficult for such a Birth to be nursed and brought up to perfection, where all things work cross, rising up against it. Because it is a strange Child that beareth not this worlds Image.
"It is explained to her that...
"First then know, this overshadowing hand, through which this birth doth spring, incompasseth only, what is Paradisiacal ground: there it drops in, its golden seed. This ground in its true native Virgin pureness, must be separated from the common cursed matter, of what produceth the earthly birth. These two different soils are to be found in the first Adam’s generative off-spring, but it is so mingled and overrun with the dark muddy element, that great care, labour and painful industry is used for its recovery out, by the wise and learned Spirit in the heavenly Chymistry, rightly to prepare for this holy Birth. Which will be easily known from the course and rudimental, that is in the image of the earthly."
But now to resolve that Question, What this Birth that is from above, which is coagulated into one unmixed matter must live upon in the house of humanity. Which for a time it must be brought up in, as Christ himself was, and tempted with the evil fruits, that will be daily proffered from the market of this world, but yet in no danger, though in minority. For it is left under the guardian Spirit, who warns it what to abstain from; whose nature and composition is of such heavenly essentiality, that it inclines naturally to obey the Paradisiacal laws. Which is the second character of this New Creature.
"Then again in the third place, while but in its Infancy, it will suck of no other, but its Eternal Virgin Mother; lay it to any other, and it will be sick to Death. And if at any time contrary Food is forced upon it, it doth presently Vomit it up.
"I'll leave it at this, and simply say that yes, I do suspect they have hand a hand in all of human history and it may be, if they were as interested in genetics in the past as they seem to be today, that "heavenly chymistry" Leade spoke of, may they not then, if what we are today results from their genetic manipulations of the past, be their 'children' in some sense?
Aonach Dubh said...
This information ties in with the early Gnostic view and their warning that humans were facing one of the greatest deceptions ever to be perpetuated on mankind, in order to to serve the 'alien-agenda'.
From Meta History:One of the most sensational ideas of the Gnostics is that Jehovah, the Father God of Judeo-Christian religion, was an Archon, an inferior or imposter deity not to be confused with the true Gods, called Aeons, who inhabit the cosmic center (galactic core).
Jehovah is said to be blind and mad, a demented alien who nevertheless has some god-like powers. Although he does not create the world we inhabit, he believes that he does. "Opening his eyes, the chief Archon saw a vast quantity of matter without limit, and he became arrogant, saying, "It is I who am God, and there is no other power apart from me.' " (The Reality of the Archons, NHC II, 4, 94.20). Of course, this is exactly what Yahweh-Jehovah says in the Old Testament. Over and over again, the Mystery teachings preserved in the NHC presents a view of Judeo-Christian religion that turns it completely inside out.
What Gnostics meant by "the doctrine of the aliens" is the ensemble of beliefs at the core of Judaic and Christian religion —and, by extension, Islam. All three of the "great world religions" derive from the revered Patriarch Abraham, thought to have lived around 1800 BCE. Because the history of the ancient Hebrews is taken as exemplary or symbolic of humanity as a whole, our species' "sacred history" begins with Abraham, but Gnostics considered that Abraham was a dupe, the psychological "vector" for the intrusion of the Archons.
In effect, they trashed the notion of a “Divine Plan” overseen by Jehovah, and exposed Judeo-Christian salvationism (the Redeemer Complex) as an extraterrestrial religion, alien to the Earth and hostile to human potential. Meta History
Aileen
Jonah said...
Very interesting Aileen...
There are two different cases that may (or may not) have bearing on the relationship between the spiritual and the visitors. Of course, it is a difficult theory to digest but if we can't float hypothesis as to what's going on...what's the point.
The first of course is the Stargate conspiracy and the work done by Andrija Puharich and his Roundtable. Here we find "The Nine" represented by "Tom". I won't go into this very interesting connection other than to mention the "Hoovians", which, according to "Tom". The following is a portion of ch 13, "The Only Planet of Choice"
"Then came the Nazarene, who is the head of Hoova, in order to soften that individualism. It was a great necessity, but we do not remove individualism or free will. But we needed to expand compassion, for in the need for survival, compassion was not developed. Compassion is now an element of development.
IRENE: But this question of compassion goes back to before Abraham, it goes back to the Garden, to Aksu?
Tom: That is correct, they were Hoovids. You see the problem there was: knowing full well who they were, where they came from, and knowing of the temptation of the opposition, it was a matter of obedience. The Hoovids did not obey, and have not obeyed since, in spite of all the rituals, and continuous asking for the Almighty to intervene, and all the prayers being directed to the Almighty.
Higher elements within the Hoovids understand this is pointless, for the Hebrews must take responsibility. But those higher elements, those of the Kabbalah, are not accepted by those who stay in the ritual. Ritual serves a purpose, but not to the exclusion of all other things. There is an error. They believe that they must study the word to the exclusion of all other things, for they feel that will be their connection, and some might not have understanding or compassion for others. They set themselves up on a pinnacle and they do not comprehend that, by doing that, they are putting themselves up there as a target for slaughter, Do you understand?
http://www.geocities.com/the931/opc13.html
Again, I only point out that the connections between the past and the present and the spiritual vs. the scientific as related to our visitors can be made many different way's. And have been...
The second is the case of 17th century abductee, Jane Leade and her Philidelphia Society. Jane was extremely religious and if you read her journal, which was published as the book "A Fountain of Gardens", you will find interspersed throughout her journal entries, descriptions of UFO sightings, Hybrid presentations and her prophetic interpretations of what is eventually to come. Here is a link to Jane Leade's entire body of work, only very recently published in it's entirety online.
http://www.passtheword.org/Jane-Lead/
Some examples..."But now the great Question of those who are willing to be Wisdom’s Disciples, is, Which way they may ascend up to this Globe Eye, to become Magicians in the holy Ghost’s Property?
This question is deep and weighty, and shall be answered according to the Gift of Revelation received; Know then, that the way to ascend to the Globe-Eye, is through its descending down into the Root-Essence of the Soul, and contracting with it Philosophically, turning it into a Magick Eye; where then it may most easily ascend, and fly to be an eye, in the Globe-Eye, before which all stands naked and open, whatsover hath proceeded from the Center-Ground of God’s Globe of Eternity. Therefore they who shall find such favour, as to be introverted and environed with this Eye, may well come to understand the grounds of the divine Magia, and be able to exert it from the Co-essential Power of the holy Ghost, without which all attempts for it will lie in Scorn and Derision. Hence we may understand where the Ground-work for divine Philosophy doth lie; whereby great Overturns and mighty Changes may be effected in this World’s Region, where God will have great occasions for divine Magia to act in his behalf "
March the 22d. 1677.
In the Night, as I was waiting in my wonted solemn Retirement, what might further be administered. I was cast as into a magical Sleep, where I saw my self carried into a Wilderness; where I saw only pleasant, pastoral Walks and Trees, which much suited with my Mind and Inclination there to walk; where I found nothing to disturb my superiour Meditations. In which place I promised my self opportunity, as not willing that either my Name, or Place should be known to any, saving One. But while I was thus pleasured in my reserved state, I suddainly did see one, that was known to me, walking very strait and upright, with a Book reading in his Hand: He seemed to be as one, that would not look awry. But it was said presently, that this Person was a Spy: then presently two more did appear of the Female Sex, both which did make a kind of Assault upon me; but one of the Females was more fierce, and did give my outward Skin a prick, as with a sharp Needle. Upon which I called for Angelical aid to succour me, or else too hard they would be. Whereupon I was parted from them, and saw them in that place no more: A voice, saying, None here shall henceforth come, but such as can agree to walk with thee perfectly. And so the Vision broke up."March the 11th. 1677.In my first Sleep, in the Night time, many magical Workings and Ideas were presented to me. As first, a Figure of a Woman, with a Crown upon her Head, who seemed to me to be but of a small Stature, but her Visage was bright as the Sun, and clear as the Moon, with a White loose Garment girt about her with a seeming White Silken Girdle, who came near to me, saying, Behold and see, what ye may arrive to be in me? And so passed away.
Then after a while, there was a Child all Lovely and Fair put into my Arms; it was all naked, of a smooth shining Skin; I could not see who it was that disposed it to me, but it was unexpectedly let down into my Arms. I thought it to be very Weighty, though but little; so passing to go away with it, it suddainly slipped through my Arms unto the Ground, at which I gave a great Screek, and with great Fear and Concern, took it up again without much Damage."
Several weeks later, Jane has another experience related to this.April the 26th. 1677
"As I was considering of the openings which I had, of that Vision relating unto the Cherubim-birth, which was hatched under the Hand of the Power: This Query arose in me, how the Spirit of this New Creature was sustained: And which way it could draw in that food, that constituted it to be of that strength and excellency of Body, and Spirit, that it could mount away, as a Dove into a unknown Orb? Ah, my Lord, what manner of Birth is this? Shall such a Birth ever be known to have existency in this terrestrial sphere? Sure such a Birth is only meet to be Born, where is a pure and unmixed Element, which may not be in strife against it. For verily it is hard and very difficult for such a Birth to be nursed and brought up to perfection, where all things work cross, rising up against it. Because it is a strange Child that beareth not this worlds Image.
"It is explained to her that...
"First then know, this overshadowing hand, through which this birth doth spring, incompasseth only, what is Paradisiacal ground: there it drops in, its golden seed. This ground in its true native Virgin pureness, must be separated from the common cursed matter, of what produceth the earthly birth. These two different soils are to be found in the first Adam’s generative off-spring, but it is so mingled and overrun with the dark muddy element, that great care, labour and painful industry is used for its recovery out, by the wise and learned Spirit in the heavenly Chymistry, rightly to prepare for this holy Birth. Which will be easily known from the course and rudimental, that is in the image of the earthly."
But now to resolve that Question, What this Birth that is from above, which is coagulated into one unmixed matter must live upon in the house of humanity. Which for a time it must be brought up in, as Christ himself was, and tempted with the evil fruits, that will be daily proffered from the market of this world, but yet in no danger, though in minority. For it is left under the guardian Spirit, who warns it what to abstain from; whose nature and composition is of such heavenly essentiality, that it inclines naturally to obey the Paradisiacal laws. Which is the second character of this New Creature.
"Then again in the third place, while but in its Infancy, it will suck of no other, but its Eternal Virgin Mother; lay it to any other, and it will be sick to Death. And if at any time contrary Food is forced upon it, it doth presently Vomit it up.
"I'll leave it at this, and simply say that yes, I do suspect they have hand a hand in all of human history and it may be, if they were as interested in genetics in the past as they seem to be today, that "heavenly chymistry" Leade spoke of, may they not then, if what we are today results from their genetic manipulations of the past, be their 'children' in some sense?
Aonach Dubh said...
This information ties in with the early Gnostic view and their warning that humans were facing one of the greatest deceptions ever to be perpetuated on mankind, in order to to serve the 'alien-agenda'.
From Meta History:One of the most sensational ideas of the Gnostics is that Jehovah, the Father God of Judeo-Christian religion, was an Archon, an inferior or imposter deity not to be confused with the true Gods, called Aeons, who inhabit the cosmic center (galactic core).
Jehovah is said to be blind and mad, a demented alien who nevertheless has some god-like powers. Although he does not create the world we inhabit, he believes that he does. "Opening his eyes, the chief Archon saw a vast quantity of matter without limit, and he became arrogant, saying, "It is I who am God, and there is no other power apart from me.' " (The Reality of the Archons, NHC II, 4, 94.20). Of course, this is exactly what Yahweh-Jehovah says in the Old Testament. Over and over again, the Mystery teachings preserved in the NHC presents a view of Judeo-Christian religion that turns it completely inside out.
What Gnostics meant by "the doctrine of the aliens" is the ensemble of beliefs at the core of Judaic and Christian religion —and, by extension, Islam. All three of the "great world religions" derive from the revered Patriarch Abraham, thought to have lived around 1800 BCE. Because the history of the ancient Hebrews is taken as exemplary or symbolic of humanity as a whole, our species' "sacred history" begins with Abraham, but Gnostics considered that Abraham was a dupe, the psychological "vector" for the intrusion of the Archons.
In effect, they trashed the notion of a “Divine Plan” overseen by Jehovah, and exposed Judeo-Christian salvationism (the Redeemer Complex) as an extraterrestrial religion, alien to the Earth and hostile to human potential. Meta History
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